[Y]ou can[not] make a biblical case for Christians to embrace worldly fads—especially when those fads are diametrically at odds with the wholesome speech, pure mind, and chaste behavior that God calls us to display. At its core, this is about ideology. No matter how culture changes, the truth never does. But the more the church accommodates the baser elements of the culture, the more she will inevitably compromise her message. We must not betray our words through our actions; we must be in the world but not of it. . . . . It's vital that you not send one message about the importance of sound doctrine and a totally different message about the importance of sound speech and irreproachable pure-mindedness.
Mark Driscoll’s response to that admonition and the things he has said since have only magnified my concern.
Mark did indeed express regret a few years ago over the reputation his tongue has earned him. Yet no substantive change is observable.
The first misconception some have regarding this debate is that this is new for MacArthur based on a particular television appearance. So I'd just counter this by noting that MacArthur has been arguing this case against Driscoll for years. For example he attacked Driscoll "vulgarity" in his "Grunge Christianity" article. And I have heard claims this is personal, and I don't think it is personal. Over the years MacArthur has attacked so many different people on some many different ideological grounds with these sorts of campaigns there is no reason to believe that this is merely a cover. His followers have broadly attacked Missional Christianity as per the image to the left.
With that preface lets hit the 4 issues in this debate
- Legitimacy of cursing, or vulgarity.
- Legitimacy of expositional preaching on poetry.
- Legitimacy of expositional preachong on the Song of Songs in particular.
- General attack on postmodernism.
Question: What does the bible say about masturbationAnswer: Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might (Ecc 9:10)
- A defense of Driscoll to the left addresses the left wing critique
- iMonk vs. centuri0n debate: Frank1, iMonk1, Frank2, iMonk2
- A discussion by Tom Ascol, Chris Poe, Phil Johnson on this topic.
- A video by John Piper about Driscoll's style
- Preaching Dirty by Phil Johnson (one of MacArthur's employees)
- Freedom 4 captives (an anti-Driscoll website) this one is to the left of Driscoll. (See post which specifically addresses the Song of Songs issues)
- A direct video response of Marc Driscoll to Phil Johnson
- An excellent summary by theological persiflage
- A similar attack by Cathy Mickels
- Relit -- books by Driscoll